quicky question on cream genes?

[loverofminis]

so whats the chances of a perlino colt to be born by 2 parent buckskin horses that dont carry cream genes?

[joseph]

both parents would have to pass the buckskin gene for it to be a perlino.it has to get the gene from both parents to be a double dillute.

[loverofminis]

oooo ok thanks

[joseph]

now if 1 throws the gene you would get a pal or buckskin depends if the other throws the red gene that would produce a sorrel but if the black gene you would get a buckskin. if they dont more than likely a sorrel or bay.

[Sillythaople]

Have you had your horses DNA tested?? The only way you can get buckskin is if there is a cream gene present. I took genetics classes in college and have been breeding horses for years. There is a good chance of two buckskins to produce a buckskin and there is a chance for a perlino when crossing two buckskins. Of course, should both of them not throw their cream gene you could get a sorrel or other darker color. Of course mother nature throws a wrench in the works just when we think we know what we are doing, but in mainstream genetics...either one should be able to throw cream genes if they are buckskins.

Cream gene The cream gene is an incomplete dominant.
1) crcr: No dilution factor, horse is fully pigmented.
2) Crcr: Single dilution factor, results in Palomino, Buckskin or Smoky Black. Red pigment is diluted to gold with cream to white mane and tail; black pigment is not visibly altered on black points or black horses, though genetic testing can reveal "smoky black" coloration.
3) CrCr Cremello or Perlino: Double dilution factor. Red pigment is diluted to a pale cream. Black pigment is diluted to a reddish shade. Skin and eye color are also diluted, skin is pink and blue eyes are common with double diluted creams.

So you can see Buckskin is Crcr...which means they have to have a cream gene present, which means they could throw that gene.

Hope that helped. :)

[happyappy3]

you've gotten some good answers, but you cannot get a sorrell out of two buckskins as one reader suggested. And since that person knew a lot about color genes, I'm surprised they suggested it since the reds are the easiest. All red horses have two red genes. (Chestnuts, sorrells, Red Roans, etc,) A buckskin is a bay horse with a cream gene, and yes, a perlino is a buckskin with two crean genes. That is why they are popular for breeding as are Cremellos (a palomino with two cream genes) because they are guaranteed to throw a cream gene, therefore turning a bay horse to buckskin, and a chesnut or sorrell to palomino.

[Sillythaople]

I apologize about the sorrel mistake. I was thinking chestnut, which can occur but only about 1.5 % of the time! You are correct... Sorrel is associated with palomino.

[joseph]

happyappy i beg to your differance. i bred a buckskin stud to a buckskin mare and got a sorrel stud colt in 2002 iwned both and had them here for 2 years so i know no other stud got to her because i live with no neibors for miles.

[Mits]

Buckskin to buckskin can produce a sorrel,it has happen to me before, only once.Out of 15 mares that was buckskin and the stud was a buckskin= I have had mostly buckskins, 1 sorrel,1 black, 4 crememellos; 1 bay.

[mart]

It all depends on the genetics and what they pass on to their offspring !! Genetically speaking,, nothing is a sure thing when it comes to animals !!