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Old 04-28-2009, 06:06 PM
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Welcome aboard Nikki, I think you will find that the vast majority of us are pro-slaughter!

As you can see we do get the occasional PETA / HSUS type that blows through spouting their routine speech, but when confronted with facts they quickly disappear!!
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Thank you for your welcome!
I look forward to the disscussions.
I work for a news paper here in Montana and have seen TONS of information go around about this.
Most everyone I come in contact with is Anti- well, everything!.
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This is refreshing..
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You need to get to know "Westmar" she is in Montana also. This thread is her project!
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Peta! I can not stand Peta. They may do good some where but I have yet found that some where. I am so for the Bill. I love Montana and I hope the bill passes.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:50 PM
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Thanks, I will contact her!
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Welcome Nikki-so glad you are aboard and understand the issue at hand. We need to kick some butt somewhere....

I have extreme time constraints at this time-I will steal moments as I can, to do what is right for our equine. Sorry if I am a bit late on the conversations.

So-Gov Schweitzer had sent the bill back to our Senate for ammendments-Then Our Senators sent it right back to him as 'is'.
Montanans are being kept in the dark as much as possible-I have not received word yet on what the Gov is doing, I have no idea if there are any days left, it's on his DESK.....If he does not sign it and lets it sit-within 10 days of receiving the bill the second time, it automatically becomes a bill.
I am on the search as to what the heck is going on-my local sources have dried up-probebly too busy since spring is trying to 'spring', I am sure they are foaling and calving still, they had really done a fine job, being much of my forefront. I cannot, at this time, even get a Senator to write me back.... GGGRRR!

OTHER NEWS! Not 15 miles from where I live, once the snow melted, on April 14th? 4 to 5 skeletal remains of horses were discovered near our local waterslide park between Columbia Falls and Columbia Heights. It was 'mentioned' in our local Police Round-up. NOTHING ELSE WAS REPORTED! Not by local newspapers or on local newscasts! WTF!?
Nothing on how they died, did they starve? Were they shot? What?????
Guess it just was not that important, we would rather watch and see if Michelle Obama puts a dress on with sleeves or not! OH-and goody-they got a frigg'in 'water dog'...where the hell is the pool for the damn 'water' dog? Did the girls take it out for it's morning 'constitution?'
Ranting-sorry....

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Hey all and thank you for the warm welcome...

I have to comment on the C Falls find...
My friend takes care of this place and I can assure you that there were no signs of neglect on this propety...

If anyone would like more information, it would be better to contact the source of the issue rather then have me try and explain it.. :)
IT is never good to get stories mixed up or confused.
Contact me proviately and I will get you in contact with this person..
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Default Pickens in news again

I know we discussed this one awhile back in one of the topics but I wasn't going back and search through them to find where it was. She was in the New York times again today. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/sp...nt&tntemail1=y
It must be nice to be that rich and can just blow that kind of money. She is asking the government for help which is a crock. If she is going to do this then she should have to do it through her own funding not our tax dollars.
She requested a federal stipend of $500 a year for the lifetime of each horse, equivalent to what ranchers who care for the horses receive in annual contracts from the government.
Read the article, it is interesting.
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Default Hb 418 passed!!!!!!!

Gov Schweitzer did not sign nor reject the Bill the second time around-IT IS NOW LAW!!!!!!

GOOD JOB EVERYONE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!!!!!
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That's great news Westmar!!

What do you think about this "Montana Governor Signs Stunning New Gun Law"........

I THINK I'M MOVING TO MONTANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HOUSE BILL NO. 246

INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON

AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:

Section 1. Short title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana Firearms Freedom Act".

Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares that the authority for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:

(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of Montana certain rights as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the 9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.

(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(5) Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following definitions apply:

(1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.

(2) "Firearms accessories" means items that are used in conjunction with or mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a firearm, including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights, magazines, flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips, speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination.

(3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs, screws, nuts, and pins.

(4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for working materials.

Section 4. Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that remains within the borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This section applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in Montana from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. Generic and insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition, and their importation into Montana and incorporation into a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana does not subject the firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal regulation. It is declared by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined steel and unshaped wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition and are not subject to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were actually firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. The authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce in basic materials does not include authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition made in Montana from those materials. Firearms accessories that are imported into Montana from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in Montana.

Section 5. Exceptions. [Section 4] does not apply to:

(1) a firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;

(2) a firearm that has a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;

(3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or

(4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.

Section 6. Marketing of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana under [sections 1 through 6] must have the words "Made in Montana" clearly stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame.


Section 7. Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are intended to be codified as an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title 30 apply to [sections 1 through 6].

Section 8. Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section 3], and retained in Montana after October 1, 2009.
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