Horse slaughter or not????

[barrelracer11]

Ok this is a pretty touchy subject, Horse slaughter has its pros and cons But just wanna know what people opinions are on this subject!

[4jpainthorses]

Excuse the pun but "I think we have beat this horse to death". This is a subject that we have talked about numerous times on here. I would say that over 90% of us on here are for slaughter. It is what we need to take care of the overpopulation of horses and to help boost the horse industry as well as provide US jobs for the plants that will reopen.

[Angels_Storm]

No way am I for slaughter at all. Everyone who breeds horses just needs to give there broodmares a rest for a year or two and ride them instead of breeding more and getting them trained to ride. I have heard of alot of ranches who expect over 100-600 foals a year plus breed out there stallions at huge prices to other people who want their mares bred. I am expecting 1 foal this year and keeping it until the day it dies.
Horse rescues need to get together and help each other out and have more fund raisers like yard and bake sales and give pony rides, clinics, and classes to teach beginner horse people how to care for their horses and how to handle horses that they think are too much for them to handle. I have seen lots of horses for sale cause a beginner horseperson bought it and then have to get their money back out of reselling it so they can purchase something that is already trained for beginner people.
Horse slaughter people should chose their horses more wisely instead of sending all the useable, young, well trained, or horses that are retrainable for a new life so that way people will not throw fits about it like me. There has been too many good horses sent to slaughter and some too many horses that have been rescued that have to be put down or die cause its too late.

[mart]

Soirry but unless you can come up with another solution then you are not helping !! Problem is the horses are already here in numbers that you can`t imagine !! Many can`t be ridden and are unusable for anything !! Many are dangerous to the extent that I wouldn`t ask anyone to take them !! There are simply not enough people to take the ones that are useable !! Do you think that its just a few hundred that we are talking about?? If it were then we wouldn`t have a problem at all !! Like I told the other person, What is your solution for the hundreds of thousands that are here now ????? Not the ones yet to be born,,, just those that are here now ????

[EquinePhotographer]

So, let me get this right. All the breeders should stop breeding except you? What makes it OK for you to breed and no one else? You make no sense. I'm a breeder with a stallion and I haven't bred a mare in 2 years BY CHOICE! Can you say the same? Obviously not. WHY are you breeding when others are making the choice to slow down or stop altogether? What makes your horses so special that they should be bred but no one elses'? I'd really like to hear an explanation for that. You added to the problems by breeding your mare, not me.

How in the world can you guarantee that foal will be with you for the rest of it's life? You can't! No one can make that claim come true no matter what the intentions. You could lose your job tomorrow and be forced to sell off your horses to make it thru the next few months until you find another job IF you find another job. So what happens to that foal or your other horses when you can no longer afford to care for them?

Horse rescues DO have fund raisers. People can't afford to donate to them anymore because they have to take care of their own family and animals instead. The rescues have to learn they cannot save them all and stop taking in more than they can handle. And what rescue can you really trust anymore? Have you read Fugly about all the rescues getting into hot water for starving horses, etc...?

Slaughter people should chose horses more wisely? That whole sentence makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever and sounds like the ramblings of a child.

Take off the rose colored glasses and look around and see what's really there.

[CABOYSAVOR]

I only bred a few of my MANY mares last year by Choice. But that's how I make part of my living. I don't tell tire manufactures to stop making tires because the don't decompose and add to the enormous amount of waste. They're not going to stop making anything that we use on a daily basis that YOU and I get rid of when it is no longer useful. How many old tv sets do you have around? What about curling irons and hair dryers with bad cords or wiring?

I don't drive a car with bad brakes, and a horse with a truly bad attitude is worse than a car with bad brakes. A car doesn't sit and think about how it's going to hurt you.

I don't see any animal rescue, PETA or otherwise, buying up huge tracts of land, entire hay crops or elevators full of feed to save all these horses that are here NOW. I see horses suffering everyday because bunnyhuggers want the non-horse public to think that each of these creatures is still useful. The truth is, the majority of them are better off dead than to endure months or years of suffering through physical maladies because we don't have to GUTS to put them down.

I have had to put several down after spending months trying to get them to "join up" on their terms, being nice, releasing presssure, the whole nine yards. If they're not safe for me to ride, and I'm not shy about throwing a leg over one, they're not safe for the general public. So I take them out of the equation. But maybe I'll keep them around for those of you who want to give one a sixteenth chance and rack up some medical bills.

EM raised some very good points, and I would just love to hear rebutle. Anti-slaughter hasn't saved enough horses to be called a good thing because the ones that should be on the next thing smoking for an end to their misery are still suffering ... at rescue facilities!

My name and number are on my post because I don't hide. If you don't like what's going on in the REAL WORLD.... MOVE. But the anti-slaughter laws have created more tragedies than they've prevented. Yall should be proud.

[mart]

Oh Yes !!! I might add that currently there are approx. 100,000 unwanted or unusable horses in the US !! And that is only an estimate !!! Better get busy if you are going to rehabilitate and re-home that many !!!

I don't like the idea of horse slaughter yet voted yes for it because when are in desperate need for these starving, unwanted horses and bad attitude, I want to kill you horses. We just have too many. So maybe Angels Storm and Rovergirl need to get together and come up with alternative solution. I think it was Rovergirl. If not sorry. I hope everyone had a nice Easter.

[thunderhoofhorses]

I am at a lost on this subject. I hate to see anything go to slaughter but I eat meat. I actually Love Meat. The sad thing is horses end up in slaughter houses when they have lived out there use or turned bad or are just plain bad. Over breeding is a problem for some. My Mares will be bred this year to cure an issue with them. Sorry all I need to fix a problem with them and since I am not willing to sell one of them to fix it. Mother and daughter with an over bond going on. Tryed 7 months of daughter being off property only to have them reconnect. They are over bonded and it does cause problems. But back to slaughter or not I think animals should not have to suffer and not being feed and abuse is not right. So slaughter house make sense to keep them from suffering just need controll to what ends up at them.

Thunderhoof horses, I agree with you. I have a mare with an almost four year old. During the day they are on separate pasture as the momma is PG and cannot have fescue. They do all right but certainly love up in the evening. I think once this foal is born it will end yet could be very wrong. They were rescue horses and in terrible shape when I got them. The foal was 10 months and still nursing that may be part of the problem. Funny thing, filly, almost four, protects momma. And some people say they don't remember. They don't forget. I love every minute I can spend with them.